In 1989 he moved to Jakarta and stayed in Centra Bonsai Pluit to work with bonsai. In 1991 he started learning how to design bonsai from bonsai artists in Pluit and Malang.
In 1991 he was sent to Japan to learn bonsai in Chiba- Prefecture and later on for the third time in 1995 to Nagano – Prefecture. He met with many bonsai masters including Saburo Kato Sensei.
He used to give demonstrations and conducting workshops in Indonesian Bonsai Society, as well as judging bonsai.
He used to help many bonsai collectors in designing and taking care of their bonsai. Some of the bonsai he has been working, won prestigious prizes in international bonsai competition.
He was invited to India in 2008 by the Indo Japanese group to lead workshops and gave demonstrations. He was invited again in 2010 by the same group and traveled to some cities to give workshops and bonsai demonstrations.